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St Michael The Archangel
SEWER ISSUES

The proposed septic plan presented  4-2-12  includes two 2000 gallon holding tanks for the dining hall and a 1000 gallon holding tank for the dwelling.  ( earlier tanks were designed to be 500 rather than 2000 gallons......with all those credentials, how did the septic designer go so far off the mark of what the DEP and Health Dept would require? Am I misunderstanding something here? )  The system is supposed to be built for peak use which is described as 209 dining hall residents on Friday  and 10 people in an office meeting  plus the dwelling  2590 gals per day .  But the field was not built to take that much effluent -  instead only half of the effluent will be meted out each day and the holding tanks were designed to  manage these numbers instead of a larger field.  

as of 3-12 .    Included is placement of the septic   field right behind properties some of whom have had flooding problems and had to remediate.   Sump pumps in the problem properties will take the water in now so it is still a concern as to whether this system is built big enough and the correct numbers are being given .  himOne remediated property  had a leak anyhow and had to redo the remediation .  The soils have been approved by the Montgomery County Dept of Health who now has the rest of the "module" to approve before it goes on to DEP.

As of 3-12
St Michael's has a plan to propose using an on site septic - the first presentation we will have for this will be 3-21-12 at a meeting Commissioner Gaglianese is proposing .  We are asking to have details of the plan posted on the website and emailed around.
Since our earlier postings, we have learned that St Michael's  was approved conditional to getting the EDU's needed to connect to the Cheltenham system.  While residents were NOT notified that these EDU's were unavailable, the Township and St Michael's both knew it at the time of the approval.

As of 11/11 
St Michael's has an application picked up to fill out  for on - site septic -- they were unable to obtain the easements needed to pump back to Kingsley and there is a moratorium on the line at Fox Chase Rd that goes ultimately through Cheltenham.

Of particular note-
we learned that St. Michael's had been  quite aware of  Cheltenham's inability to  provide  service - even back at the time of the Preliminary waivers .  On 12-4-09 a resident was notified that St Michaels was not even on the Cheltenham waiting list - despite their presentation of a plan to supposedly use those sewers ....    So knowing they were not even on the wait-list it seems to beg the question of whether there was ever really an  intent to go that way? It seems implausible they would spend this much $ on so many fine details and yet omit the important step of signing up for EDU's ....?   Just seeking to understand....

Below are a few relevant links to the septic system - it has been suggested that perhaps if they put porta- potties in during events,  they might  not  be required to get a septic system  for the many hundreds that might be using it  during their larger events, festivals, banquets, weddings etc.

Septic  Guidelines can be found in EPA's Title 25 

Chapter 71, 72 & especially Chapter 73 for septic 

Title  25  Chapter 105   Environmental  or health concerns

  Here is the form they are going to have to fill out –  if you give it a 5 second glance you will see what kinds of considerations will be given by the DEP who will have the final say, as I understand it. http://www.elibrary.dep.state.pa.us/dsweb/Get/Document-55124/02%203800-FM-WSFR0352%20Form.doc

This is the main DEP  site that has all the sewage issues you ever stayed up late wondering about  J  http://www.elibrary.dep.state.pa.us/dsweb/View/Collection-9501

We are still looking  for good links to learn about septic systems, if any of you would like to share some .

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Township  Sewers and Sewage Codes-- http://www.ecode360.com/9007865

Map of the Sewer Lines  There is apparently a pumping station at Township line and Meetinghouse  which pumps sewage back up Meetinghouse to Kingsley.  Note the arrows at Kingsley that show the direction of the flow .  At Kingsley  the flow goes off in 3 different directions  but ultimately across Huntingdon Pike somewhere and then into Philadelphia. The line however that is next to Pond View Drive goes down into  Cheltenham .   We do not know if there are any possibilities of St Michael's connecting into the line at  Fox Chase or Meetinghouse & having it pumped up to Kingsley  from there.

Originally they were planning to go out the Crosswicks side near Kipling and up Crosswicks to Kingsley. No easements have yet been obtained in that area as of 9-15-11.

 

 

THE INTERCEPTOR
At the 8-11 Board of Commissioners meeting , the Board announced that it would be paying approximately 1/3 ( 1/2 million $ approximately ) for it's share of the Interceptor that the DEP is requiring Cheltenham to install.  This  will not make any difference to the need for the 1 or 2 pumping stations at St Michaels - there is still a moratorium .

   We will bring more details as they are known and welcome your comments  to share either anonymously or with your name attached with your  fellow Abington residents.   

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