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Rydal Waters Development
This area is behind Rydal Park  and behind the Baederwood Shopping Center
 going  almost up to York Rd.

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Please incude the words RYDAL WATERS in the title /subject box of your email .
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Commissioner Steven Kline and Commissioner Ernie Peacock  are the go-to guys on this issue. Please do not take any information below as fact without checking with them.  We thank these Commissioners for keeping their constituents regularly updated. Please visit their sites for more useful township information .

 

12-20-10

Rydal Waters  - The prior plan passed -  last year -There are now  96 or 97 garden apartments and independent living units that now  have streets, sewer, and electric,  and are possibly just on hold due to the economy .   Rydal Park  is adding a new medical center  and will turn it's old one into more units when that is done .  Between 600 and 700 units are int he final plan.

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12-4-08

Hearing held at Township Building .   A presentation of the newest plan was given -  Proposed are 96 units approximately ( could be fewer)  The old Harbison Estate will become a clubhouse  and a swimming pool is planned.    The units are to Lease for life - under a contract -  they will be 1750sq ft to 2400 sq ft - each with a two car garage. Some are twins - some are singles.

The units will have no more than two occupants  with no dependent children &  at least  one of whom is 62 . ( If caretakers are involved additional occupants are allowed)  The occupants will have use of the amenities at Rydal Park - - Except that they are a separate piece of land, Rydal Park & Rydal Waters are a single integrated community. 

 The community will be gated and closed at night completely. In the day time, Abington residents are allowed to use the grounds for walking.  
 

No one spoke in opposition to the plan.

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8-08

At the Planning Commission Meeting 7:30 on the 26th at the Township Bldg Rydal Waters will present a sketch plan to request additional units . They now want  97 instead of 85 single family units. The 85 was recently gained by requesting zoning changes and/or variances and now that is being expanded again. The last variance was approved for detached units - the 97  are apparently not all detached and a "reverse subdivision " is being requested where they will all be on one parcel instead of having individual lots.

5-08
Rydal Park has bought the Rydal Waters property  ( price thought to possibly be in the $14 -$19 million range - not sure )  and will be expected to close on the property  by early June

Zoning  is currently  NR (Neighborhood Residential) and  approved for 84 single family dwellings
Rydal Park's original proposition :  97 age-restricted dwellings ( 64  duplexes, 33 single homes)
That proposition can be found on  http://www.erniepeacock.com/rydal_2008_0206.pdf.

Another proposal has been raised, keeping development more to the interior of the property & 
open space closer to Old York Road, Brook Road and Huntingdon Road ( a zoning change would be required. )
This more desirable Open Space placement would come with a request, if we understand correctly, to allow the 97 instead of the already approved 84 homes. But we will have to wait & see - anything at this point is speculation.

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HISTORY  - up  to 5-08

The  ground that we know as Rydal Waters once was part of  36 - 38 acres that belonged to the Harbison family and was a farm. Robert Harbison's house sat on 2-3 acres and is still there.  Rydal Park  bought the rest of the acreage  over 20 years ago. 
    Rydal Park once had approval ( in the 80's) to build 280 apartments or more on the  part of the property that was zoned A0. Another part - zoned R1 residential would have been untouched. That proposal met with difficulties including issues  with neighbors.

Circa 2004- 2005
The Elliot Group purchased both Rydal Park & Bob Harbison's home -   joined the parcels and then the zoning was changed to NR  Neighborhood Residential - and 84 units ( the Harbison house making the 85th) were approved .   
The Original  Plan-
            20.44 acres  ( Zoned AO  would accommodate 75 units ) 
        +  14 acres ( Zoned R1 Residential would accommodate 9 units )
             1  unit was existing
         =85 units  plus  10 Acres Open Space (located on R1 Portion)
           Special exception needs - steep slope disturbance  
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Circa
2006 -2007 :  Alternate plan proposed - to rezone the entire parcel to NR - Neighborhood Residential 
   This  would accomplish several things, including a larger buffer area for neighboring homes , preservation of more large trees and open space moved closer  to the existing homes. In other words the units were distributed differently.
 The re-zoning went through  construction got underway . By  summer 07 , the  Elliot Group, filed for bankruptcy  and all progress on the development  halted- but this of course after the whole beautiful wooded area had been virtually clear-cut. The parcel was purchased by the bank holding the note.  And then purchased by Rydal Park ( or it's owners)  5-08  
 



 

 

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