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Baederwood Shopping Center

WHAT ABINGTON RESIDENTS ARE SAYING :

Your comments welcome - click here - they will be posted anonymously unless you desire otherwise but I require a name and address to know that an Abington resident has made them.

 

DEC  29,  2011   coming ....

DEC 15th

THE FAIRWAY TRANSIT ORDINANCE  - # 200O  ( AND ORDINANCE # 2006 PROPOSING TO COMBINE ALL THREE BAEDERWOOD LOTS)  HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE THUMBS UP ( with amendments? without amendments? we're not sure...)
 BY YOUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ------- MEANING THEY WILL RECOMMEND THE COMMISSIONERS PASS IT JAN 6,  2011


Residents are meeting Dec 29th  at 7pm at the Brownstone next to Sunrise at Abington


Please join us. Or send your comments by clicking here

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DEC 13  2010 
Comments
 ON NOVEMBER 17TH  2010, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON, RESIDENTS WERE PRESENTED WITH A NEW PLAN .... THE FAIRWAY TRANSIT ORDINANCE .  IT IS NOT JUST INTENDED FOR THE BAEDERWOOD PROPERTY... THOUGH THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE IT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED.  IT HAS BEEN ADMITTED SOME ITEMS  ( INCLUDING THE NAME) ARE THERE WITH AN EYE TOWARDS  A MUCH LARGER AREA......THE PLANNER HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR AND WRITING THE ORDINANCE FOR OVER 9 MONTHS.  THE HOLIDAY RUSH TO PASS THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN COMPLAINTS RESIDENTS HAVE.

Dec 7th and December 17th, residents met to prepare their comments for their Commissioners, Planning Commission members and for the next meeting. Here are the comments agreed upon by consensus at those meetings & presented to commissioners and planners.

1)  Request a Continuance / Extension  
       
until residents are properly informed

2)  Provide the tools that we need to be informed
                    provide a webpage with appropriate links and all facts
                    provide email lists for all who want to be informed of meeting dates & info updates
                    release the reports from the Lawyer & Land Planner - show how their conclusions were
                       reached
                   
3)  If  Brandolini refuses to extend the deadline …..
                    allow the legal process to start, if need be ……. it can be stopped at any time we all agree

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Among other things, we need more time to examine:


Invalid / Incomplete Traffic Studies
 Lacking police accident reports, key intersection studies, neighborhood roads analysis & other  safety concerns

 Rydal Waters May Gain Cause to Sue
 If we allow this, then they will have the same situation  and we may anticipate more challenges

Greenspace, Setbacks and Building Heights
 
A definitive amount of greenspace  should be preserved - not offered as an "option"
 Set BACKS from the road,  rather than  encouragement to build up to it, preserve beauty & greenspace 
 Heights should be reviewed  - higher structures should be set back are 75 ' heights at all desirable ?

Conveyancing Individual Lots  p8 section P   (504.6.P)   
Allowing individual lots  for financing or conveyancing without the need for subdivision/land development approval  could create properties ( the Baederwood & others)   that are difficult to sell & to manage & have other consequences.  Eliminate p8  Section P .  

Density / Mixed Use / Transit Oriented District / Ownership
We do not want residents ADDED to our Township  -  Mixed Use  Should NOT be forced 
Transit Oriented Districts strive for / thrive on greater density and include undesirable transit "stations"

Surveys
 
Residents should never be directed to a survey which limits them solely to the survey maker's choices & ideas.   

Solutions - Compromises
Consider creating a Residential zoning with fewer limitations than the SNR specifically for the 8 acres

( ½  of the  8.32 acres borders on SNR (Sr Neighborhood Residential ) something  less restrictive could be offered)
Or …..Seek a similar solution with an ordinance that is crafted with the residents concerns as noted above prominently addressed --- the FTD ordinance does not do that.  We hope to work towards a solution with which  both Township officials and residents can be happy.
 

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2006 Comments & questions

 Comments from the March 13th, 2006  meeting included some of the following :

 
........that the area might not be able to support the amount of retail that is planned and if it did 
              that the increased traffic would greatly impact the neighborhood
........that if the 500 residential units planned were going to have children, the cost impact on the
               school district would be a consideration
.........that the current businesses might not know their fate for some time while the project was underway
                and it would be difficult for them to invest in their own stores
.........that other capital improvements such as the expansion of the Rydal underpass etc  might result
                 in expenses that would end up being borne by taxpayers
.........that the traffic specialists there should already be familiar with the problems in the area before
            planning the additional impact  ( they seemed not to be)
.........that the underground parking that is planned is rarely used in the Jenkintown Acme as residents
             prefer above ground parking
.........that there is a creek that runs under the property that might make things difficult  especially
               for underground garages
.........that there are environmental concerns such as building 250 units in a partial  steep slope area in the
            rear and whether consideration would be given to impervious surface alternatives
......... that the variances needed would represent a substantial difference in the number of units built,
             in the rear of the property, for instance  ( 250 apartments versus 8 single family homes ? )  rather than
              the very tiny little variances represented by the developers
.........that the plan itself was beautiful and that it might represent a wonderful asset addition
            with many improvements for residents to enjoy over the current use of the space.

   

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3-14-06   If the area can support this wonderful project - it would mean that those that were shopping there in this increased space would NOT be shopping in another area possibly in our township. So while this area might thrive another might suffer a loss  as a result. The movie theater  is the only viable one for miles around, but the grocery shoppers, it would seem,   would have to draw from those that shop at Clemens or Genuardi's or Acme to be viable. What would happen to those stores?         lel@abingtoncitizens.com 

 

3-19-06  Not only will the traffic from 500 apartment units be immense, but in combination with the additional cars from the increased shopping, the entire quality of the area will be changed.  This type of plan seems better for an area which is already more dense, not this one, which can not handle the traffic there as it is.  lel@abingtoncitizens.com 

 

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  Please feel free to post your comment here - either with your own email or you may post anonymously & use ours .  Send your the information to: lel@abingtoncitizens.com 

 



 

 

 


 

 


 

 


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