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where Abington, PA residents can share ideas and join forces to build a better community

 

Guernsey and Old York Rd

A 7- Eleven  Convenience Store
has applied to occupy the former
Peace-A-Pizza property
 

     Please feel free to add your info or comments to this  page if  and please be sure to  contact us about any information you believe to be incorrect .

  

 

1-12   The 7 Eleven will appeal the denail of their application in Common Pleas Court 

Residents ARE allowed to  attend .   They should be careful to check the same day  to be sure there is not a cancellation ( Cancelling meetings is " not unheard of "  when residents are  planning to show . )

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12-11 The Zoning Hearing Board denied the application -

11-15 -11 regularly scheduled zoning meeting - they will continue with comments from the residents.  In the    meantime the applicant has said they will try to get some of the questions answered that they were unable to answer on 10-18-11

 10-18-11  Zoning Hearing Board  Meeting

At tonight's hearing the 7-Eleven store presented an engineer , a zoning expert, and its property management expert. Residents, who filled the meeting room, heard questions from each and were able to ask their questions of these experts based on the testimony that was given.

Testimony included some of the following:

There are 21 parking spaces proposed only 17 are required.

The building would have 2500 ft.² approximately

They would employ possibly 10 to 12 people who would all be over 18

For security they would have a minimum of 2 to 3 employees on the premises,

They would have cameras and off-site monitor and alarm system ,  but that employees would keep in their pockets and calls the police on autodial.  they would keep under $40 in the cash register  .  Bills over $20 go in and inaccessible box - and quarters are only accessible in limited amounts accessible at 10 min.intervals. 

At one point they said there would be 2 to 3 box trucks a day and two of the tractor-trailers per week.. At a later point in the questioning the total number of trucks was estimated to be simply  2 to 3 per day.  The 7-11   trucks would make their deliveries between the hours of 10 AM and 8 PM.  but they did not have control over their vendor trucks  and occasionally some of them might come  at 3 AM or some other time .  Some trucks would come early in the morning, and some trucks would come between 8and 10 at night such as the bread and pastries.   Coke and Pepsi trucks, Fritos trucks  etc.  would constitute some of the others that would be making deliveries. They testified that there would probably only be about one delivery in the middle of the night that might be expected. 

That was a great deal of discussion about how trucks get in and out of the property --- and about increased traffic though the neighborhood .  Their plan was for the trucks to go into the middle lane and then cross over the other lane to get into the property.  A zoning official asked whether that was a good idea or a safety issue. There were also questions about the trucks that are going north and  where they would turn around to come back south.  They answered that they did not know where that would happen.  Also they suggested that they couldn't imagine anyone using the store and traveling on Guernsey Road unless they lived on Guernsey Road.  Residents felt that many people would use Guernsey from Highland to cut through to get to the convenience store and that possibly students might come from the high school through the neighborhood to the store  and that there would be a great deal of increased traffic.  They said that they would not close off the Guernsey entrance that was not a possibility for them.  It was important to 7-11 to have that entrance and exit on Guernsey so that customers could go out and then turn left onto York Road.  

When the trucks were on the property, they were shown to possibly block the entrance and exit of the customers.
the applicant did not think that that would be an issue as they would only be there short while.

Their zoning expert testified that they believe that they have since our code allows supermarkets and compatible with our Comprehensive Plan and the Old York Road Corridor study which call for a variety of uses and no uses that should be restricted

There was a great deal of discussion about the fact that the ordinance governing this property states that no cooking should be done on the premises as an accessory use.  The Township seems to be implying that this means they cannot make or sell cooked food and they seem to feel it is not allowed as an accessory use but that it is not prohibited as a primary use. They testified that they would be warming up food but they would not be making or cooking it on the premises.

They said they did not have any idea what to expect in the way of  crime.

One resident asked if they might have a community bulletin board in the store

Another resident asked if this particular person now testifying was saying that they would take care of the complaints about trash, noise, loitering etc. but that another party would actually own and run the store ,making the person testifying no longer be responsible,  who would ensure residents that these things would be done.  They said that 711 owns the store , pays the taxes, deals with the development and controls the property and everything concerned with it so 7-11 would be responsible.  A resident asked if they knew what complaints there had been at other properties and they did not know. They said different regional real estate managers handle different properties.

One resident asked how they would be of benefit to the community when they get more impulse customers rather than people from the neighborhood, and they can't control the powers of the vendors trucks etc. they responded that they would employee people hopefully some from the area, they would generate revenue for the town as well and provide a service

A question was asked about whether short term signs like for cigarettes or specials would be displayed.  The answer was that they would comply with the ordinances

The question was asked they would proceed with this even knowing that the great majority of the residents in the community  and the answer was yes that they would proceed

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  The Application: 

This is the application of 7- Eleven, Inc., applicants for the property located at 1140 Old York Road for a use variance from Section 402.2.A of the Zoning Ordinance of the Township of Abington.  The applicants have requested approval to use the property as a Use C-8 Convenience Store.  In addition, the applicants have requested a variance from Section 801.L.5 of the Zoning Ordinance to allow for the required relief of the Security Standards for a 24 hour operation.  The applicants have since amended the application and requested an interpretation from the Zoning Hearing Board on their proposed use of the property as a Use C-25 Retail Shop and that they comply with the requirements of Section 801.L.5 of the Zoning Ordinance of the Township of Abington.  The property is zoned within the (TC) Town Commercial District of Ward #11 of the Township of Abington.

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  Our codebook is in 2 parts
Part 1   Township's Codebook    except for  zoning
Part 2 Zoning Portion of Township Codebook

or go to http://www.abingtonpa.gov/info/newcodebook.htm

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