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ST MICHAEL'S
Proposal
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KIPLING RD AT TOP

Fox Chase Rd at Bottom

The two grey structures are the Pastor's house (left) and the Banquet/ Dining Hall (right )

 

Planning Commission Agenda 2011 : propose to construct a single family dwelling for use as home for the pastor of the Church and his family.    In addition the plan proposes a multi use building listed as the “Dining Hall”.   The proposed building is plotted as having a footprint of 11,640 square foot with an additional rear patio.  This plan has received preliminary approval in December of 2009 by the Township of Abington.  In addition, the applicant has received the required Zoning Hearing Board relief on July 15, 2008. The property is zoned within the R-1 Residential District and the (CS) Community Service District of Ward #3 of the Township of Abington.
      This description makes no mention of  the deck  found in the actual plan - increasing the "outdoor factor" : on the 12-3-09 plan : a rear deck 24x96 feet in size - an extension of the first floor level just outside the French Doors of the Dining Hall  and above the 24x50 foot patio.
Ok - this is just to give you a vague idea of where the buildings are proposed until the Township can get us a proper  digital copy to share . Some folks don't yet even have an idea where the buildings are to be situated   -- that's what the 2 black squares vaguely show.  The Parsonage may be on hold at the moment   ( as of 9-11)  We'll hear soon. I drew these on the top of the old 1990 plan .
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HOW THE PROPERTY IS ZONED   See the line to the right of the log church plan  above. That is the division between the CS Community  zoning that would include the parking lot the new parsonage and the log church all to the left of the line.  And then you would have the old parish hall, the original dwelling and the new Dining / Banquet Hall all to the right of the line which was all zoned R1 before any waivers were given.  The floodplain conservation district is no longer noted on the new FEMA plans.( We are trying to track down the documentation for the change. There are specific guidelines for changing Flood Plains  and documenttion is supposed to be on file as we understand it )   And the soil designations have changed significantly from the old plans to the current one ( We're not sure how they shifted or which engineer might have been drunk while on sampling duty)  . 
                                            

more details :   GENERAL NOTES  ( found on the plans dated 6-09 )

1     This project consists of the construction of a 11,640 s.f., 1story dining hall with a basement and a 2,933 s.f., 2story parsonage.

2.                     Boundary information taken from Plan of Property made for Clement B.  Newbold, prepared by Charles E.Shoemaker, Inc., dated 9-16-75.

3.                     This project involves the construction of a 6,000 s.f. church hall, and a 3,000 s.f. rectory.
4.                    
Source of title:     Deed Book 6382, Page 2054.
5.                    
This development will be serviced with  public water and public sewer

6.      According to FEMA Flood Insurance Rate Map #42091C0401E, dated 12-19-96, this site is not located within
the 100year flood boundary.

7.      Fire hydrants and streetlights are to be installed at the expense of the land developer in accordance with township standards and with the recommendations of the respective utility companies, subject to the approval of the Board of Commissioners.

8.                     Streetlights and street name signs are to be installed at the expense of the land developer in accordance
with township standards and dedicated to the township.

9.                     PECO Energy and  the appropriate telephone company are granted  the right to construct, maintain and repair
pole lines an underground equipment on,  under and across lots,  and  this shall  be so recited in all deed
descriptions,  together with  the right to construct,  maintain  and repair pole lines and underground equipment
on, under and across all highways in this tract.

10.               Although the parking requirements have not been met, shared parking can be utilized on this site, due to the
non-conflicting times of the uses for the church and the dining hall.    Peak parking for the church is needed
during church services, which occur primarily on Sunday mornings.    Peak parking for the dining hall is needed
during special events, which occur mainly in the evenings.    Therefore, adequate parking for the dining hall can
be provided in the church parking lot.

EXISTING BUILDING COVERAGE                 PROPOSED BUILDING COVERAGE

1 7% (11,454/679,796))                                                                          3.0% (20,454/679,796))

EXISTING IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE            PROPOSED IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE

12.4% (84,321/679,796)                                                                               14.0% 95,022/676.796)

 

 

 

                          

 

 

 

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