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ST MICHAEL'S
Soil  Changes
( for Floodplain changes click here )
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 This issue of shifting soils we now consider to be somewhat resolved.  We did a great deal of research tracking down how the two different plot plans could be different.  It appears that there is a good possibility in 1990 when the engineer transferred the information to his map, he did it rather freehand and loosely and did not copy it correctly.  We took a look at the map he copied it from, and although we couldn't tell exactly where the borders were we did know that the shape of the borders looked more like the current soil map.  So we are considering this issue of shifting soils to be resolved.

 Click here for Soil Report received 11-9-11  This is a very complete 20 some page study and defines the different soils and some of the viability for use  --  be patient it takes a minute or two to load
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 Below you can see the two plats or plot plans that caused the original questions about soils that seemed to have "shifted" .

 

KIPLING RD AT TOP

 Above : The grey area on this plan ( above ) on the right  is the existing basketball court.  If you look just to the right of the court you'll see a dotted line in the shape of a "finger & thumb or the end of a "dog bone" --  that is the soil line .   
That soil is Ha- Hatboro loam - a hydrik ( or Heidrick ) soil,  often indicative of wetlands. 

  Below :  In the plan of the same property below you will see the same soil configuration that is actually labeled as a"flood plain conservation district" .  We were looking for the data that shows how those soils seemed to keep basically the same configuration but shift so far to the right .  As you can see on the new plan above, all the building structures are now outside of those soils .   The above new map  does agree with the most recent Department of Agriculture's soil samplings - new studies were done over the years and the maps were digitized . We didn't find  any data  that would cause a redrawing of the soils map - but having looked at the 1967  soils map below - it is possible that the engineer in 1990 did not bring the information over correctly.  Thanks to the  folks at DEP & US Dept Agriculture for their help .

 

                          

 The soils information is obtained from the United States Department of Agriculture Website.   http://websoilsurvey.nrcs.usthe freezerda.gov/app/HomePage.htm>> 
From the Twp:  "I looked at 1015 Fox Chase Road and have determined that the soils information that ( their engineer) has provided to be accurate.  I made a copy (TIF) of the area for your use and included with this email. It was explained to me that the soils information from 1967 (the date of the previous soils data book) and present day have been updated and revised many times to reflect more accurate soil surveys throughout the county and across the country by the Dept. of Agriculture.
   After the introduction of the FEMA maps, the Township adopted the use of the maps as a way to determine the flood zones by Ordinance No. 1753 on May 9, 1996. "

 A letter that we have indicates St Michaels had to  contact DER  or the Army Corps of Engineers  back in 1990 and they apparently were the ones that indicated the Ha soil was to be designated  as flood plain area -  St. Michael's then apparently  noted the Floodplain Conservation District  (which is the terminology for the zoning overlay
of a flood plain area) on their plan . FEMA may never have picked up that information when they created their maps.

                      Here is the 1967 soils map that the engineer would  have used to transfer the soils info.  It  would have been a difficult job.

 

 

 

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