QUESTIONS for Economic Development 
				Corporation  Informational Meeting  10-16-19   
                   
          
				
                
                   
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				THESE QUESTIONS  REFER LARGELY TO 
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				BY- LAWS  & THE PROCESS
				 
				1) 
				Article 9 says the bylaws may be altered at any time by 
				the township …. so please describe twhere the sense is in 
				submitting something for resident comment or approval 
				when it can be changed at will right after any comments 
				or approval. 
  2) Isn’t it true that you can currently 
				choose to do any kind of economic development that you want to,
				 but that you would have 
				to do it within the rules ? 
  3) Why should you be allowed 
				be allowed to engage in development
				 outside of the rules when 
				you have every ability to do the same things inside the rules 
				that are there to protect us. 
  4) 
				Why should we want you to be able to develop in a way 
				that protects you or distances you from
				 feedback of the 
				residents, or from  any 
				other conditions designed to  protect 
				us  from government abuse? 
				 
				5) Please tell why the webpage page for The 
				Economic Development Corporation does not show correctly the 
				version of the Ordinance ( without by-laws and articles of inc)
				 that was voted on 9-4-19 
				and 9-10-19 . 
				 6) Please tell why the website 
				page does not show the date he By Laws and Articles of Incorp 
				were posted  
				 7) 
				Will you correct the dates on the website 
				so a true chronology can be appreciated?
				   
				 8) 
				How could the residents  of 
				Abington possibly approve allowing other people from outside the 
				township or anywhere in Pennsylvania deciding for us what they 
				would do in our Township, without any further approval from us .
				
  9) We have no idea who the people are who will be 
				appointed to take over our voices. Do you think that is in the 
				best interests of  
				the Abington Residents you serve? 
  10 ) We have no idea 
				what the “chosen” people’s  vision 
				is for our Township or whether it is anything like the vision 
				that we have.  Do you 
				feel that  this is in the 
				best interests of the people of Abington? …..to totally give 
				their rights up to others, whose names and visions they do not 
				know?........who may not even live here and who have no 
				requirement to include our concerns 
				in their march towards profits 
				that they can “make new friends with ? 
  11) 
				Is it not so that these developers and others, some or 
				all of whom may be from outside our township are to be able to 
				use funds, grants, resources, personnel etc
				 paid for by our tax 
				dollars, but these finances would not be decided inside the 
				confines and rules of our budget process.  
				 12) 
				Inside our budget process, the funds should be going to 
				the  projects and 
				needs that are identified as the most urgent, but isn’t it true 
				that none of the funds 
				at play in the EDCoprp would subject to
				 those rules, that 
				process, or those priorities? 
  13) 
				Is there any place in this entire process where the view 
				and the voices of the residents 
				would be considered first ? 
				At any stage of a project? At any stage of the 
				continuation into subsequent projects? 
				At any stage in the creation of new “entrepreneurial “ 
				entities?  
  
				14)  Please tell me 
				why residents should want you to approve such a thing when there 
				is no mechanism for their voices to be made louder rather than 
				diminished entirely  
				- or made inconsequential? 
				 15) 
				If public has never been given a straight answer on the 
				finances regarding the profits and benefits of the the 
				convoluted derivative style coalitions of public and private 
				participation such as the one that built Crest Manor with 46 
				units at a cost of 17 million dollars, why would we consider 
				these public private partnerships to be a good thing. It is one 
				thing to see a beautiful thing built – but quite another when 
				you may have poaid for it and have no idea what it really cost 
				you – and whether you would have approved it if you DID know. 
				Will the figures on all EDCorp projects be available to 
				the public in advance of any such project being approved?
				 
				 16) Just 
				as the finances are often written in incomprehensible derivative 
				fashion, so are the sections on 
				liability.  In fact 
				it is  clearly far 
				more complex and convoluted than 
				 are reasonable for a public document 
				and  perhaps 
				this  statement is among 
				the most distressing : Upon 
				receipt of a written request for indemnification against 
				liabilities and an advancement of expenses pursuant to this 
				provision, a prompt determination shall be made by a 
				disinterested quorum of the Board, if available, or by other 
				means recognized by law, to determine the requesting party's 
				right to indemnification and advancement. If no such 
				determination is made within thirty (30) days from the date of 
				the request, it shall be conclusively presumed for all purposes 
				that the requesting party has rights to indemnification and 
				advancement  In 
				fact someone who should not be  covered 
				can even be covered by such a simple move on the part of others. 
				If the Colonade has taught us nothing else, it has taught 
				us that our money can be stolen just as easily in false 
				lawsuits, as it might be by a robber with a gun and 
				a mask .  Will 
				you require the liabilities to be written in a clearer manner 
				and written without loopholes that so easily might find guilty 
				parties none-the-less defended in full at the expense of the 
				taxpayers, as is currently the case in the Colonade /100 York 
				dealings?   
				 17) 
				Both residential and Commercial
				 properties are being 
				considered for the taking and developing …….yet 
				isn’t it true that most vacant properties are only
				 a problem because
				 code enforcement 
				personnel are not doing their job?  
				
				 18 ) Please explain 
				why  properties are not 
				properly cited when they are not following code, causing them to 
				become blighted 
   19) 
				Please explain how the actions of the code enforcement 
				officials are not creating the problem.
  20 ) One goal is 
				to develop things in a way to ease traffic flow and congestion. 
				Quite the opposite has been true with just about every single 
				project that Township personnel Commissioners and staff have 
				approved.  How will this 
				happen  
				 21) Please explain how, if the 
				Township has consistently 
				approved projects that increase traffic flow and 
				congestion, you believe a separate corporation with far less 
				input and oversight could do better?  
				 
				 22) you have suggested that 
				this Corporation will submit things that meet the needs and the 
				desires of the residents – but the needs and the desires of the 
				residents are regularly ignored by Township officials totally 
				while approvals are made 
				for developers that provide construction contrary to our 
				wishes.  Few 
				residents  were in 
				approval of a  12 pump 
				Wawa  at such a dangerous 
				intersection - that has now been made more dangerous . 
				Residents voices were overwhelmingly ignored as the 
				Abington Terrace development was approved…. Affecting other 
				properties as well… But that information was largely withheld. 
				The Colonade  process was 
				allowed to continue  while
				 the safety of the 
				residents residing there including the voices of the residents 
				commenting on the issues at the podium were ignored. In nearly 
				every phase of interaction there has been a problem between what 
				Township officials and personnel are accepting of and the vision 
				of the residents.   How 
				would you possibly suggest that this Corporation that is 
				required to have nearly no public input could then meet the 
				needs and the desires of the residents ? 
				 
				 23) Why should we not believe 
				that this attempt to move the issue to a separate Corporation is 
				simply an attempt to avoid that very interaction with the 
				residents that helps the residents voice what they actually do 
				want in their community. They did not want to hundred and 46 
				units on 8 acres. And that should not have happened. They did 
				not want and 1100 square-foot facility just a few feet from 
				their fence line, on top of that with
				 a septic system instead 
				of a sewer.  Yet 
				approvals were made by township personnel and officials that 
				completely ignored the needs wishes and desires of the 
				residents. Please tell us how you would seek to change that 
				dynamic in a process that cuts the residents voices out even 
				further. 
				  24) 
				Please tell  the 
				many ways that the residents needs wishes and desires are 
				gathered by those making the decisions . For instance in this 
				case how many people in the Township of 56,000 do you think 
				actually know about  what 
				is happening  and
				 are suggesting that you 
				should in fact go ahead with the development of this Corporation 
				?  How did you
				 inform people before 
				advertising for a hearing - how did you poll the residents of 
				this Township  to know 
				what their wants needs and desires were ? 
				 25) 
				How would residents be able
				 to voice their wants 
				needs desires and concerns to this board when they are not 
				participating in it and when the board has nearly no obligation 
				to them written into the bylaws..... ? 
  26) 
				Is there any place in the bylaws that
				 gives concrete
				 steps
				 to ascertain
				 what residents needs 
				wants and desires are   ? 
				……..other than to suggest that whatever the Corporation decides 
				to do will meet those needs wants and desires?  
				 27) him In section 1.01 of the 
				bylaws it suggests that economic development is going to be in 
				the interests of the residents 
				-   however no 
				one has ever actually given the residents any written summation 
				of an economic development calculation that shows even a single 
				project where there is a specific economic benefit. 
				Will we get such a calculation?  
				
  28)  
				In the past when any calculations are given they have been 
				totally devoid of figures that were complete and when complete 
				showed any benefit or list of benefits . Developments like 
				Abington Terrace, St. Michael's, The Manor Woods rezoning, Rydal 
				Waters, the Baederwood / Brandolini debacle , The Grove property 
				, the Colonade/100 York  /the 
				Colonade/100 York/  the 
				Colonade/100 York/  the 
				Colonade/100 York,  the 
				Wawa, The Rite Aid placed next to a CVS, the Superfresh next to 
				Shordays......  the list 
				goes on and on.    No 
				figures were ever given that showed the impact of the
				 losses
				 caused to other 
				businesses or the thousands of hours of staff time, legal time, 
				all of the infrastructure costs  and 
				other costs…etc  When 
				numbers are given it’s a one sided affair.
				 Without both sides of the 
				picture  it is impossible 
				to calculate any benefit  real 
				or imagined on the part of the township or the taxpayers funding 
				it all.  And at the 
				end of nearly every project there is a developer who is 
				enor4mously richer and a lot of residents whose pockets have 
				silently been picked, little by little, to make him that way.  
				 Will you provide please, several examples of the 
				benefits that the residents received from any of these 
				projects......? …… and then provide the actual costs
				 of those benefits and let 
				us decide  for ourselves 
				if it was actually in our interest or not?
				  
				 29) 
				In Section 1 .03 private inurement can be paid to 
				directors officers or others when it is incidental to the 
				government function and purpose. This is contrary to some of the 
				basic protections that are afforded to residents 
				when the government is using their money. But by passing
				 this money on to a “ 
				completely legally separate entity “ they seem to be able to 
				avoid this protection . Tell us why we would not be better off
				 having the protections 
				that the law intends us to have when the government is using our 
				money? 
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				)  The government 
				already has many buildings. It has the right to obtain them and 
				it has the right to redevelop them. Of course those rights come 
				with certain limitations and restrictions that are designed to 
				protect the residents. Please explain how it would be in our 
				interest to set up a new entity and allow it to obtain new 
				buildings and offices in which to function that are not ours 
				even though some substantial portion of our money has been used 
				to acquire them?  
				
  31)  No 
				limitations are put on the cost of the offices that
				 might be acquired , 
				so again reasonable government protections are not a 
				feature here.  Please tell 
				us why that would be in our interest ?
  32) 
				In Section 3.01 we learn that the sole member is the 
				township. However once again this is meaningless because the 
				township can add another member at any time it would like. 
				 33) 
				In section 4.02please say why
				 why someone should be a 
				resident of the Commonwealth and not a resident of Abington 
				Township who is  deciding 
				how Abington Township is developed ?
  34) 
				Please tell me where it would establish any rights for 
				the residents of this Township to objected to a project that 
				they found completely contrary to their wishes?
  35) Our 
				government is supposed to set up mechanisms to hear the 
				residents before it undertakes any service on their behalf – 
				that is guaranteed by laws carefully set out --- ( yet already 
				inadequate)  Why 
				would we want to give up the right to have any say in what is 
				supposedly being done “ on our behalf and in our interests” ?
				 
  36)
				 We have a government 
				process set up for the above goals – why are we sidestepping 
				that process?  
				 
				 37) 
				In section 4 .05 the residents do not seem to have any 
				rights to reject to either projects or personnel. Please tell me 
				why you should not write in to this ordinance a line that allows 
				that upon the objection of 25 residents a director's name may be 
				removed from consideration or a director may be removed from 
				service? 
  38)   Should 
				there even be a corporation, why should a director not be 
				re-nominated at the end of each year with the overwhelming 
				support from…residents???? 
				 
				39)  Please 
				tell me how residents seem not to have any participation 
				whatsoever in the economic development of their Township? Are 
				they not to be trusted? 
				
  40)  Please 
				tell me how we should not view this entire creation simply as a 
				removal of our rights?
  41) In section 501 and the ones 
				following we see that the directors do not really even have to 
				participate except in writing or by phone or
				 digitally . These are all 
				things which the hinder proper function of a meeting or the view 
				of residents …. And these allow for quick behind-the-scenes 
				decisions where no real consensus of any community is allowed. 
				How is this in the interest of residents? 
  42)  
				 Digital attendance, ad hoc committees that remove 
				aspects of a project from the main process,
				 all things that take any 
				transparency away. If residents even are allowed to attend 
				meetings in the first place, which is not clear, why would they 
				want these non-transparent processes to take place with their 
				money, their personnel, their resources, and their properties? 
				Explain how that could possibly benefit them?
 
				 43) Quick zoning decisions
				 can often be bad zoning 
				decisions. Quick development approvals can often be bad 
				development approvals. Please explain how this could possibly 
				provide for adequate oversight, adequate input, adequate 
				thought, when residents feel certain there is not enough 
				oversight already?
  44) 
				Our manager was suggested to be named executive director. 
				In 1.03  this 
				may be a paid position, to be 
				paid to a man who already is working a job paid by 
				taxpayers that is considered more than full-time because the 
				work is never done. He can never say he has finished for the 
				day, he only can say he has done the most / best that he could 
				for a day’s work.  If 
				he can hold down a second job, that would not be true.  
				 Abington Township manager is not a part-time job. Please 
				explain how this organization seems to think he is available? 
				
  45) There is no indication of what officers would 
				be paid. How much is Mr. Manfredi being paid now?
  46) 
				How many hours does Mr Manfredi
				 think his job requires 
				him to put in for that pay ?
  47) 
				How would residents guard against this separate entity
				 - and all the other 
				entities it creates – from dipping into the funds and resources 
				that Township taxpayers pay so dearly for? 
				 
				 48) The 
				section on funding is worded very,
				 very nebulously ….. that 
				the organization will not be separate from the township, state, 
				and  federal funding, 
				etc….. A  great deal of 
				the funding will come directly from taxpayer pockets is this not 
				correct? 
  49)  
				Since this entity can set up other entities that similarly meet 
				the “mission” ( broad as it is) 
				how would we prevent all those separate entities from 
				similarly acquiring our tax monies and resources without our 
				consent?  
				
  
				50) 
				The manager is not elected by the residents. And if we 
				are enormously unhappy with what the EDCorp is dong we can 
				unelect our Commissioner – but that will not dismantle the 
				Corporation.  It has 
				no obligation to the people. 
				And they have no control over it . Isn’t that correct? 
				
  51)  
				How is it that no one elected by the residents is a part of this 
				Corporation?
  52)   That 
				the residents have no direct power over the Corporation is,
				 in fact,
				 the whole purpose of this 
				separate entity is it not?
  53)  
				The loans, liabilities, funding 
				processes etc are huge issues that are barely described 
				in any manner that makes them clear to the residents. Usually 
				there is a reason when the lingo is “convoluted”-
				 an
				 intent to deceive. Do you 
				intend to rewrite all unclear clauses
				 to make them more 
				specific and more clear, and to require funding to be clearly 
				set out so that it is easily comprehended for purposes of 
				oversight ?  
  
				54) .   In section 7 
				.0 8 we are not even being told the policies and the procedures 
				for the acquisition and disposition of residential and 
				commercial property. In other words you are deciding that 
				somebody later on will  decide 
				what their procedures for taking my property might be . They 
				currently whatever these unknown people with their unknown 
				visions decide to make them. 
				Do you find that to be in the interests of the residents 
				of Abington? 
  55) 
				Don't you think a very clear policy and procedure manual 
				for the acquisition and disposition of residential and 
				commercial property in Abington Township should be put forth in 
				order to see if residents  agree 
				with it or not , if you are purporting to represent the 
				residents? 
  56) Would the Township use tools like eminent 
				domain against residents that did not cooperate with the entity 
				they had created?  
				
  57)  Or you are 
				saying that you don't care whether we approve what you were 
				doing or not?  
				 58)
				 It is unclear even how 
				much power our board of Commissioners will have over this 
				entity.  Do you 
				intend to make that clear? 
				
  59)  
				Will you support them no matter what they do because they are 
				representing “you” or because they are raining $$$ on you 
				or because  
				you like what they are doing?  
				And what will happen if you DON’T like what they are 
				doing? 
  60)   After the myriad filings in The 
				Colonnade /100 York issue and so many other issues in this 
				Township that are being wrongfully litigated- even Right-to-Know 
				documents that are being withheld, I believe purposely, to drum 
				up revenue for the solicitor’s firm, as was also the case in the 
				Abington Terrace / YMCA issue and others…… how would we even 
				begin to trust a Township who  put 
				forth a document for a hearing with first NO details – and then 
				nebulous changeable details like these? 
  61)   
				How do we trust a Township who has members recommending the 
				absurd $345 hr fee  for a 
				firm where his siter-in -law is a partner 
				and not a mention of it is made?
  62) Why would we 
				trust a Township where this item, highly protested was put on 
				the "consent agenda" after the first meeting  where is 
				would be rushed to a hearing without further comment - despite a 
				clear cry for more information and protest over the information 
				presented at the first meeting ? 
  63) 
				How would we trust a Township who allowed just 2 days to 
				get questions submitted – when they already knew that nearly no 
				one understood this was even happening? 
				
  64) How would they trust a Township that 
				had just serruptitiously removed speaking rights when 
				they thought no one was looking? 
				 
				 65) 
				How would they trust a Township that had so many 
				residents in need of  
				monies for important stormwater or other projects being put off, 
				while they had no trouble finding and immediate $20,000 for the 
				outline of this project.
				 
				 66)   
				How could they trust a Township  who 
				cannot/ will not give a straightforward 
				answer after having been asked time and time again if 
				Commissioner Winegrad is related to the partner at the firm he 
				recommended the fee for and voted 
				to fund.   
				 66) Please tell me why, with all of these problems, and so 
				many more, you think any of this is in the residents’
				 interest. 
				It clearly is not.  
				  67)
				 Please acknowledge that
				 you have absolutely no 
				idea what the community thinks, feels, wants, or needs, because 
				you have not taken the time to ask. 
				
				  
				
				68)  Please acknowledge, this Corporation will only be in 
				the interest of the ones directly profiting from it -
				 being paid by it in some 
				way.  The rest will not be 
				told what the nice new development has cost each and every one 
				of them. Nor will they be asked if that is what they wanted.
				
				
  
				
				 
				  
				
                
                     
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