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                                         ARE YOU IN A CIRCLE ?

                                    meeting to decide what this map should look like :
May 25, 2023
                                    MEETING TO PRESENT WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HEARD YOU SAY 
JUNE 15TH, 2023
                                       
 https://www.abingtonpa.gov/Home/Components/News/News/6341/16

                 I am setting up a facebook page called  "abington Discussions" where you can talk about this
                                         https://www.facebook.com/groups/615321197212083                      
                                           

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                                THE ARROWS ARE THERE TO HELP YOU FIND YOURSELF ON THE MAP
                                       WHICH CHOICE BELOW IS YOUR HOME NEAR....?


1) Willow Grove Mall & BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA   
 
2) WILLOW GROVE TRAIN AREA
3)  CRESTMONT TRAIN AREA     
4) tARGET -LONDON TOWN CENTER  AREA
 5)  Approx FROM TARGET TO  CHOP  AREA     
6A) RYDAL TRAIN AREA  
6b) BETHAYRES TRAIN  AREA
 7) bAEDERWOOD SHOPPING CENTER    
 8) NOBLE TRAIN 
 9)  HUNTINGDON VALLEY SHOPPING CENTER   
10) McKinley area 
11)  York Rd & Township Line     
12) Jenkintown -Wyncote Train  
13)  Mt. Carmel & easton  Glenside       
14) glenside train 
15) glenside Commercial district around N.Hills station 
16) North Hills station    
17)  commercial area near ardsley station
18) ardsley station 
19) no number - iT'Sjust above #18   Glenside weldon school  & keswick   
20) Roslyn Train 
21) area around roslyn train 
22) Roslyn : Woodland to Hamilton  - ISH
23) Willow Grove : Hamilton to the mall  
24) between crestmont station and the mall

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what Do the "r"  (grey circleS ) and "T" ( dotted blue line circle ) MEAN ?

R=Grey Circles - MIXED Residential USES 1/4 MILE AROUND SHOPPING CENTER  (The ones on this yellow map still depict 1/2 mi.  THE vISION  will ALLOW for denser, multi-unit  Residential forms -Duplexes, Triplexes, TWINS & more but it excludes r1 -- the wealthiest of our neighbors with minimum 1 acre lots. why is that? if you are wealthy you should not get treated the way the riff-raff is .... or are tHey afraid that powerful voices and deep pocketed donors might be offended?

T= DOTTED BLUE CIRCLES - Transit Oriented districts - THE VISION IS FOR  VERY DENSE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING  both RESIDENTIAL & COMMERCIAL WITHIN 1/2 MILE OF A TRAIN

On the shopping center parking lots they want to allow apartment buildings with garages for the parking space they're replacing

more is possible
BUS STATION circles MAY ALSO BE ADDED. they were discussed
TRANSITIONS ZONES ARE were discussed, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE all YET ....
but highland ave behind the hospital was mentioned, even though they fought that tooth and nail at the time of the 2017 rewrites -  6 years later they are caught trying to sneak it in again, fairly certain no one is paying close attention
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  Manager Manfredi and Former COMR Mike Thompson WITHDREW THIS MAP FROM THE PLANS LONG  before the committee concluded its work AND the committee, who already met with the public each month and received comments, never finished its work by handling that chapter.    Manager manfredi THEN said THEY Want to  MEET WITH THE PUBLIC FIRST BEFORE DECIDING WHAT the map will look like. that was the whole point of the committee - to meet with the public each month and conduct its business until they had an agreed upon plan.

   I would beg to differ with the managers effort to convince you anything other than that it was withdrawn to keep the "poPulace"  from getting restless ...... until the very last minute, then they would pass it quickly BEFORE THE WORD OF THE ACTUAL PLAN GOT OUT.  Manfredi NOW  WILL HOLD ONE MEETING. YES, ONE -- COUNT 'EM, ONE -- just one meeting with the public WHILE THROWING AWAY A YEAR AND A HALF TO 2 YEARS OF INPUT BY THE PUBLIC.

   THE MEETING will be ON MAY 25TH, 2023 and  80 to 90 % of the "public" is unlikely to even know it is happening,  even if they personally will be dramatically affected. and trust me, if i woke up and found out the house beside me was becoming an apartment building, triplex or maybe a business, i would consider myself dramatically affected.

 BECAUSE THEY WITHHELD ALL THE INFORMATION for over 2 years, THE AVERAGE RESIDENT WILL BE UNAWARE OF THE ACTUAL ISSUES GOING INTO THAT MEETING. they also will not hear THE TWO YEARS OF TESTIMONY FROM THEIR FELLOW RESIDENTS that was given to the committee.  that testimony is being thrown out in favor of what will result from this one meeting, AND they WILL likely BE SOLD THE MYTHS OF " WALKABILITY ", "EXPANDED TAXBASE", "SAVING THE MALL" and other fairy tales,  WITHOUT ANY TIME FOR DISCUSSION WITH ONE ANOTHER BEFORE a quickly crafted version that reflects largely what they want is brought to the june 15TH  SESSION and then shepherded forward to the vote
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    iT IS  EXPECTED, TO GO to COMP PLAN CONSISTENCY COMMITTEE  and we don't know if there are any other stops before a full board of commissioners vote.  SHOULDN'T IT -- WILL IT --- GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WE DON'T KNOW - BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING IT all UP AS THEY GO since mr manfredi's arrival. OUR ONCE SOLID PROCESS FOR PASSING THINGS HAS BEEN DISMANTLED.

   FALSE  FIGURES - NOT ONLY DID FORMER COMR THOMPSON LEARN FROM US THAT THE NUMBERS IN THE COMP PLAN WERE INCORRECT AND EVEN DIFFERED ON DIFFERENT PAGES OF THE PLAN,  BUT AFTER A FULL REVIEW, AND AFTER ADMITTING THE FIGURES AND FORECASTS WERE NOT CORRECT, HE DECIDED THEY WERE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. STUNNING , ISN'T IT . SO THERE IS  AN ACTUAL ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE, WHEN THEY GIVE YOU BOGUS NUMBERS AND TELL YOU WE NEED TO PROVIDE HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE THESE POPULATION PROJECTIONS.  IN A NUTSHELL,  IF YOU DON'T BUILD THESE UNITS, THE POPULATION WILL NOT INCREASE.  I DON'T ENJOY BEING DECEIVE.... DO YOU?

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  all of the AREAS i tried to define with my arrows are approximate - i did them because the township refuseD to put this on an interactive map like a gis map so you can find your property and see if it is in one of the circles  and understand what they are doing.  WE MAY HAVE THINGS WRONG BECAUSE THEY HAVE REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. what a shame when residents are treated like this. you deserve better.

The shareable link for this page you are on called " Are You In A Circle"  is :  https://abingtoncitizens.com/page/AreYouInACircle.htm



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              Ignore the faint red line circles - those were the former 1/2 mi around a shopping center - now they are 1/4 mi

here  IS A  GIS zoning Map - you can PUT IN YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE on it - then  go back to the land use map ABOVE ..to try see if you can better PLACE your home  AND SEE IF  it is in A circle
https://abingtonpa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/interactivelegend/index.html?appid=599f14516a1d40cbaa809e0d678a9a63

Find emails here for Commissioners and manager  https://abingtoncitizens.com/TwpGovt/Commissioners.htm


  TO LEAVE COMMENTS ON THE PLAN FOR THE COMMITTEE, THEY PREVIOUSLY  PROVIDED AN EMAIL AT VISION2035@ABINGTONPA.GOV


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