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				ARE YOU IN A CIRCLE ? 
				                                     
				meeting to decide what this map should look like : 
				May 25, 2023
				                                     
				MEETING TO PRESENT WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HEARD YOU SAY  
				
				
				JUNE 15TH, 2023 
				                                          
				 https://www.abingtonpa.gov/Home/Components/News/News/6341/16
				
                   
				I am setting up a facebook page called  "abington 
				Discussions" where you can talk about this                                          
				
				https://www.facebook.com/groups/615321197212083                      
				                                              
				 
				  
				                                 
				THE ARROWS ARE THERE TO HELP YOU FIND YOURSELF ON THE MAP                                         
				WHICH CHOICE BELOW IS YOUR HOME NEAR....? 
				
				 1)
				Willow Grove Mall & 
				BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA   
				
				
				  2) 
				WILLOW GROVE TRAIN AREA  3)  CRESTMONT TRAIN AREA     
				 4) tARGET -LONDON TOWN CENTER  AREA   5)  
				Approx FROM TARGET TO  CHOP  AREA      
				 6A) RYDAL TRAIN AREA    6b) BETHAYRES TRAIN  AREA
				  7) bAEDERWOOD SHOPPING CENTER     
				  8) NOBLE TRAIN    9)  HUNTINGDON VALLEY 
				SHOPPING CENTER     10) McKinley area   
				11)  York Rd & Township Line      
				 12) Jenkintown -Wyncote Train    13)  Mt. 
				Carmel & easton  Glenside        
				 14) glenside train   15) glenside Commercial district 
				around N.Hills station   16) North Hills station    
				 17)  commercial area near ardsley station  18) ardsley 
				station   19) no number - iT'Sjust above #18   
				Glenside weldon school  & keswick     20) 
				Roslyn Train   21) area around roslyn train   22) 
				Roslyn : Woodland to Hamilton  - ISH 23) Willow Grove : 
				Hamilton to the mall    24) between crestmont station 
				and the mall 
				
				 
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		  what Do the "r"  (grey circleS ) and "T" ( dotted blue line circle ) 
		  MEAN
		  
                
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		  R=Grey Circles -
		  MIXED Residential USES 1/4 MILE AROUND 
		  SHOPPING CENTER  (The ones on this yellow map still depict 1/2 
		  mi.  THE vISION  will ALLOW for denser, multi-unit  
		  Residential forms -Duplexes, Triplexes, TWINS & more but it excludes 
		  r1 -- the wealthiest of our neighbors with minimum 1 acre lots. why is 
		  that? if you are wealthy you should not get treated the way the 
		  riff-raff is .... or are tHey afraid that powerful voices and deep 
		  pocketed donors might be offended?    
		  
		  
		  T= DOTTED BLUE CIRCLES -
		  Transit Oriented 
		  districts - THE VISION IS FOR  VERY DENSE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING  
		  both RESIDENTIAL & COMMERCIAL WITHIN 1/2 MILE OF A TRAIN 
		  
  On the shopping center parking lots
		  they want to allow apartment 
		  buildings with garages for the parking space they're replacing
		  
  
		  
		  
		  more is 
		  possible  BUS STATION circles MAY ALSO BE ADDED. 
		  they were discussed  TRANSITIONS ZONES ARE 
		  were discussed, WE 
		  DON'T KNOW WHERE all YET ....but 
		  highland ave behind the hospital was mentioned, even though they 
		  fought that tooth and nail at the time of the 2017 rewrites -  6 
		  years later they are caught trying to sneak it in again, fairly 
		  certain no one is paying close attention 
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		  Manager Manfredi and Former COMR Mike Thompson WITHDREW THIS MAP 
		  FROM THE PLANS LONG 
		  before the committee concluded its 
		  work AND the committee, who 
		  already met with the public each month and received comments, never 
		  finished its work by handling that chapter.    Manager manfredi 
		  THEN said THEY Want to  MEET WITH 
		  THE PUBLIC FIRST BEFORE DECIDING WHAT the map will look like. that was 
		  the whole point of the committee - to meet with the public each month 
		  and conduct its business until they had an agreed upon plan. 
     I would beg to differ 
		  with the managers effort to convince you anything other than that it 
		  was withdrawn to keep the "poPulace"  from getting restless ...... 
		  until the very last minute, then they would pass it quickly BEFORE THE 
		  WORD OF THE ACTUAL PLAN GOT OUT.  Manfredi NOW  WILL HOLD 
		  ONE MEETING. YES,
		  ONE -- 
		  COUNT 'EM, ONE -- just 
		  one meeting 
		  with the public WHILE THROWING AWAY A YEAR AND A HALF TO 2 YEARS OF 
		  INPUT BY THE PUBLIC. 
     THE MEETING will be ON 
		  MAY 25TH, 2023 and  80 to 90 % of the "public" is 
		  unlikely to even know it is happening,  even if they personally will be 
		  dramatically affected. and trust me, if i woke up and found out the 
		  house beside me was becoming an apartment building, triplex or maybe a 
		  business, i would consider myself dramatically affected.
   BECAUSE 
		  THEY WITHHELD ALL THE INFORMATION for over 2 years, THE AVERAGE 
		  RESIDENT WILL BE UNAWARE OF THE ACTUAL ISSUES GOING INTO THAT MEETING. 
		  they also will not hear THE TWO YEARS OF TESTIMONY FROM THEIR FELLOW 
		  RESIDENTS that was given to the committee.  that testimony is being thrown out in favor of what will result from 
		  this one meeting, AND they WILL likely BE SOLD THE MYTHS OF " 
		  WALKABILITY ", "EXPANDED TAXBASE", "SAVING THE MALL" and other fairy 
		  tales,  WITHOUT ANY TIME FOR DISCUSSION WITH ONE ANOTHER BEFORE 
		  a quickly crafted version that reflects largely what they want is 
		  brought to the june 15TH  
		  SESSION and then shepherded forward to the vote. 
          	   
          	   
		      iT IS  EXPECTED, TO 
		  GO to COMP PLAN 
		  CONSISTENCY COMMITTEE  and we don't know if there are any other 
		  stops before a full board of commissioners vote.  
		  SHOULDN'T IT -- WILL IT --- GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WE DON'T 
		  KNOW - BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING IT all UP AS THEY GO since mr 
		  manfredi's arrival. OUR ONCE SOLID PROCESS FOR PASSING THINGS HAS BEEN 
		  DISMANTLED. 
  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		      
          	   
          	  FALSE  FIGURES 
		  - NOT ONLY DID FORMER COMR THOMPSON LEARN 
		  FROM US THAT THE NUMBERS IN THE COMP PLAN WERE INCORRECT AND EVEN 
		  DIFFERED ON DIFFERENT PAGES OF THE PLAN,  BUT AFTER A FULL 
		  REVIEW, AND AFTER ADMITTING THE FIGURES AND FORECASTS WERE NOT 
		  CORRECT, HE DECIDED THEY WERE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. STUNNING , 
		  ISN'T IT . SO THERE IS  AN ACTUAL ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE, WHEN THEY 
		  GIVE YOU BOGUS NUMBERS AND TELL YOU WE NEED
		  TO PROVIDE HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE THESE POPULATION PROJECTIONS.  
		  IN A NUTSHELL,  IF YOU DON'T BUILD THESE UNITS, THE POPULATION 
		  WILL NOT INCREASE.  I DON'T ENJOY BEING DECEIVE.... DO YOU?  
		  
                
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		     all of the AREAS 
		  i tried to define with my arrows are approximate - i did them because the township 
		  refuseD to put this on an interactive map like 
		  a gis map so you can find your property and see if it is in one of 
		  the circles  and understand what they are doing.  WE MAY 
		  HAVE THINGS WRONG BECAUSE THEY HAVE REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. what 
		  a shame when residents are treated like this. you deserve better.    
		  
                
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		    The shareable link for this page 
		  you are on called " Are You In A Circle"  is : 
				
				https://abingtoncitizens.com/page/AreYouInACircle.htm  
		    
				
  
				 
        
				       Ignore the 
				faint red line circles - those were the former 1/2 mi around a 
				shopping center - now they are 1/4 mi 
		   
		  
                
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		    
		  
		  
		  
		  here  IS A  
		  GIS zoning Map - you can PUT IN YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU 
		  ARE on it - then  go back to the land use map ABOVE ..to try 
		  see if you can better PLACE your home  AND SEE IF  it is in A circle  
		  
		  
                
		  
		  https://abingtonpa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/interactivelegend/index.html?appid=599f14516a1d40cbaa809e0d678a9a63
		  
		  
		  
		  
  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		    Find emails here for Commissioners and 
		  manager 
		  
		  
		  
		  https://abingtoncitizens.com/TwpGovt/Commissioners.htm 
		  
		  
		  
		   
		  
		  
		  
		  
		  
		     TO 
		  LEAVE COMMENTS ON THE PLAN FOR THE COMMITTEE, THEY PREVIOUSLY  PROVIDED AN 
		  EMAIL AT VISION2035@ABINGTONPA.GOV 
          	  
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